In Chapter 1, we learned the reasons as to why real estate
markets are inefficient. When deciding on whom I wanted to conduct an interview
with I wanted to choose somebody who has had success in this market. Our family
friend Darrell Herzog has been flipping houses for the last 5 years and has
been earning generous profits from the deals. Darrell is also a property
manager of a set of apartments and also works in the construction field so he
has a variety of experience in this market. Even though he does not have a real
estate license I figured he was a good candidate for my interview and someone I
could learn some valuable information from.
When did you get
started and how did you get involved in flipping houses?
I had a friend who was flipping houses, which is buying a
house that needs work, fixing it up and then selling it to make a profit, and he
actually asked me for a loan. I told him I don’t want to make a loan but we can
be partners and split everything 50/50. That’s how it all started. So basically
I put in the money, we make the decisions together, and he helps out with some
of the manual labor.
What type of houses
do you prefer to flip?
We look houses that are run down. Most of them are houses that
no bank will loan money on and we buy them with cash. At the beginning we use
to purchases houses around $120,000 but now we are buying more expensive houses
in nicer neighborhoods because we have found them to be more profitable.
What certain
characteristics do you look for when purchasing a house to invest in?
We like houses that are on a quiet street and we look for
neighborhoods with nice surrounding houses and kept up appearances. What would
make us not want to buy a house is the exact opposite, houses on busy streets
and neighbor houses that are run down. I have noticed that people don’t even
like houses if their backyard is on a busy street.
What are the main and
major things you fix when working on a house?
We try to spend as little money as possible but we have to
change what is needed. We typically like to redo the roof when needed, put in new
flooring, replace windows that are energy efficient, and update bathrooms and
kitchens to give them a more modern look. We paint inside the home almost every
time and outside if it looks necessary. We also like to work on the front landscape.
We try to make it look brand new.
How risky is your
job?
Well there is a certain amount a risk and the economy plays
a big part. Banks have to be willing
to loan money on the houses to buyers for us to sell it. Also the appraisers
who set the value tend to vary. One appraiser can be really low and then
another can be way higher. Just the way it is.
How long does
flipping process take?
We aren’t that fast because this is not our primary job. We
both have full time jobs so it takes us longer to complete a house then some
other people. 3 months is a good average.
How do you know how
much more to sell the new equipped house?
It basically is set by the market and by what the comparable
houses in the immediate neighborhood has sold for.
What is the best part
of the job?
The best part is when you sell it and get the money that you
made.
What is the most
difficult part of your job?
When my partner and I argue about important decisions. I
think we should do A and he thinks we should do B, but I always win because I’m
the moneyman.
I enjoyed interviewing Darrell Herzog. He was very honest, easy
to talk to and straight forward. I think what he and his partner do is great
and they are fortunate to make profits. Not everybody has the time, cash, and
logic to be able to accomplish this. He mentioned multiple times that the quantity
of the profit depends on the market. This makes flipping houses risky but so
far they have been pretty lucky. It is definitely something that is very
interesting and appealing to me.
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